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  • Using AI to Help You with Your Podcast

    Human beings have more or less been obsessed with robots taking our jobs since the term “Robot” was first coined in 1920, in a play that depicts just that!

    Then, of-course, there was I, Robot, where in 1950, Isaac Asimov lays out his “Three Laws of Robotics.”

    Perhaps one of the most telling early work is Kurt Vonnegut’s Player Piano, published in 1952 about a dystopian future where virtually all jobs are replaced by automation.

    For something more contemporary (and more optimistic), you can look to John Danaher’s Automation and Utopia: Human Flourishing in a World without Work, which argues that a workless, automated society may allow us to focus on more, “creative, intellectual, and social pursuits.”

    You know — those things that actually make us human, and not just being striving toward complete and total efficiency.

    No matter what you think, the Generative AI boom of the past year has accelerated conversations like this. Will AI replace me? What can’t AI replace? How can I leverage AI for my job? What’s overhyped?

    As a podcaster, you might be wondering these same things.

    After all, you’ve likely seen some AI generated content to make you think that human podcasters are on the way out.

    So I thought for the penultimate article in this year’s podcast advent, we’d explore the ghost of podcast present: AI.

    There will be lots of articles recapping “this year in podcasting,” but if I had to pick a topic that affected the space most this year, it would be AI.

    You can think of it as podcasting’s [Artificial] Person of the Year.

    The “artificial” part is important. Because even though AI has gotten exponentially better this year, there’s something AI can’t replace: the human element.

    What AI can do for us is assist. It can help us generate ideas, research topics, create assets, repurpose content, and make our shows more accessible.

    So let’s take a look at how AI is impacting podcasting now.

    Note: I’m going to assume at this point, that you know what AI is. If not, I wrote a handy primer for you.

    Generative AI is Not Automation

    I think the first mindset shift we need to understand is Generative AI is not automation — that is, it doesn’t necessarily do work for us.

    It can’t (or shouldn’t) write scripts, do unchecked research, or record for us, no matter how convincing some think it is.

    Instead, we need to think of it as an assistant — something that helps us do our jobs better.

    As long as we keep this in mind, we’ll be able to leverage generative AI properly and still make compellingly human content.

    Let’s dive in!

    Planning and Research

    Sabermetrics transformed baseball.

    A sport that’s so data-heavy used to be based on gut feeling and incomplete scouting reports — for some players, it still is.

    But for most players, Sabermetrics gives them a plan. Pitchers know what pitches are most effective against specific batters. Batters know what pitch they’re most likely to see in a 2-1 count. Fielders know what part of the field a batter is most likely to hit the ball to.

    In other words, they have a much better plan, thanks to the vast amount of data they have access to.

    Generative AI is similar — it gives us access to a vast amount of data in an incredibly accessible way.

    We can leverage tools like ChatGPT, Google’s Bard, and Bing Chat to organize and surface basically anything we want to learn more about.

    As a result, when you plan your podcast, Generative AI can give you incredible insight into a number of areas.

    • What people are talking and writing about
    • What questions people are asking
    • What is already being done

    …and much more.

    One of the most powerful uses I’ve see here comes in the form of defining your ideal audience.

    Listener Research

    Something every podcaster should do is define a clear audience — they can do this through creating a mission statement for their podcast.

    The mission statement defines who they serve, what problem they help their listeners solve, and how they solve that problem.

    Knowing this, you can do some listener research by:

    1. Describing your audience to the AI and having it come up with 1-2 listener avatars.
    2. Asking the AI what questions your potential audience has about your podcast’s topic.
    3. Learning where you can find your audience online

    Beware though! Just like Sabermetrics can give hitters a bunch of data, it can’t swing the bat for them.

    AI can help you do the work. It can’t do the work for you.

    Better Guest and Topic Research, too!

    You wouldn’t say a bat hit a home run, right? A baseball player still needs to swing it at the perfect time to launch that thing over the wall.

    Just like with pre-launch planning, AI can help us on a per-episode basis.

    Leveraging AI to help us with guest and topic research has gotten so much better this year. We can use ChatGPT and Bard to get actual web results. That means we can source and validate research more easily.

    We can also use it to help us come up with better interview questions in a few ways. The first is by surfacing topics we would not have thought of. Or, by summarizing recent interviews from the same guests and avoiding those topics during our interview.

    This sort of better preparation will all you to differentiate yourself through great content — something that we learned from the ghost of podcast past.

    Plus, we can spend some more time on the actual content, thanks to the transformative nature of AI on the production side of the house.

    Production and Post Production

    I think the biggest strides on the actual production side is the permeation of podcast summarization through transcription.

    Less than 2 years ago, I was still making the case that podcasts need transcripts. Today, thanks to AI, they are a crucial part of the modern podcast workflow.

    I don’t think I need to convince anyone today that transcripts are invaluable for both podcaster and listener alike.

    Not only have AI transcription services gotten more accurate (though definitely not perfect), but their utility has grown by leaps and bounds.

    Descript makes it easy to edit your podcast by editing the transcript. Both Descript and Riverside leverage transcripts to find and create clips you can share on social media.

    Riverside even employs AI through the use of transcription to create a video that automatically switches to whoever is speaking at that moment.

    And then there’s the increasing number of summarization tools. From Castmagic to Capsho and SwellAI, to countless others, these tools will take a transcript, process it, summarize it, and give you reusable assets like social media posts, blog posts, newsletter text, titles, descriptions, and more.

    Where many podcasters struggle to write compelling copy for their titles and descriptions, these AI tools can provide a great starting point.

    That said, AI can’t help us with everything — and that’s an important lesson too.

    Where AI Falls Down: Promotion

    The number one question I get from people who feel they already have a great production workflow in place is this:

    How can I automate my podcast promotion process?

    Sadly, there was nary a time I got that question where I was able to come up with a satisfactory answer.

    Sure, AI tools can help us “find” and create clips. It can come up with tweets and LinkedIn posts and newsletter copy.

    But it can’t possibly know what content is most interesting to our niche audience. It can’t know if the clip it selected falls in line with our mission statement.

    It can’t meaningfully engage with our audience online or in communities.

    And it can’t force guests to share our show.

    And with the ever-changing landscape of social media algorithms, we can’t necessarily rely on those for growth anyway.

    Instead, when it comes to promotion, that’s still on us. We can use AI to help us create assets, but we can’t outsource the actual promotion to an AI. That still requires that thing I mentioned at the top of the article: the human element.

    Use AI to Help YOU Inspire Your Audience

    And that’s really the purpose of Scrooge meeting the Ghost of Christmas Present, right? To learn about the joy of spending time with family. To see people struggling who are still happy to be together.

    And to inspire change through common stories highlighting our humanity.

    So while AI has definitely shown us it can have a huge impact on our podcast process from planning to promotion, there’s a much bigger lesson we can learn from the Ghost of Podcast Present.

    Podcasting still requires something even more important than efficiency: humanity.

  • Why You Should Write a Book if You Have a Podcast

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    One of my favorite books from my college reading list is A Confederacy of Dunces. It’s a funny, tragic book that highlights the fact that someone will always think society is on a downward spiral…as well as hypocrisy.

    An interesting fact about the book is that it almost didn’t see the light of day. The author, John Kennedy Toole, died tragically in 1969. A Confederacy of Dunces wasn’t published until 1980, thanks to work from another writer — Walker Percy — and Toole’s mother, Thelma.

    A Confederacy of Dunces went on to win a Pulitzer Prize.

    I regularly think about all the incomplete and unpublished works out there — from authors and would be authors who didn’t, or couldn’t, get their books on the shelves.

    Then I think about how easy publishing and distributing a book is today. And while the writing is still the hard part, that can be easier too.

    Especially if you have a podcast.

    What Podcasting has to do with Writing a Book

    As someone who’s written 5 books over the last 12 years, I can tell you my process for each of them has looks more or less the same:

    1. Pick a topic I know very well — something I’m an expert in. Do some research to see what other books exist on that topic.
    2. Create a mind map or outline of everything I want to include in the book. Do some research to make sure I didn’t miss anything (or at least anything I feel should be included).
    3. Organize that mind map/outline into chapters in an order than makes sense for the reader. Do research on how these topics get presented from other experts in the field.
    4. Write each chapter, while (you guessed it), doing research to make sure I’m representing each topic accurately.
    5. Adjust each chapter once I get them back from edit, once again consulting my old friend research, as I make those changes to ensure accuracy and consistency.

    As you can see, there’s a lot of research involved. This is true whether you’re investigating a new topic, or you’re an expert on the topic. Good authors do research to make sure they’re presenting accurate, up-to-date information for their readers.

    This is also true if you have a podcast (at least a good one), right? You’re selecting topics and presenting them in a way that’s easy to consume for the listener.

    If you have guests, you’re researching those guests and asking them good questions as a proxy for your listeners, who may not have the same access to the guests that you do.

    If you have a solo show, then you’re creating outlines, and possibly scripts, on topics you know well, while doing a bit of research to ensure accuracy.

    And for many podcasters, once the episode is published, that’s the end.

    But it doesn’t have to be.

    A Quick Note on Using AI in Your Book Writing Process

    Before I get to the main event, I do want to touch on a topic that you may have already thought this article would be about: repurposing with AI.

    I am not talking about that.

    While repurposing is all the rage these days, I have strong feelings that you can’t just use AI to repurpose spoken words into a book. To put it as plainly as possible:

    Writing a book isn’t just organizing your thoughts.

    Full Stop.

    Writing a book is everything I mentioned above — creating a structure that lends itself to teaching. It’s not just rearranged word vomit.

    What you CAN use AI for is pulling out the interesting ideas from your podcast, surfacing things you may have forgotten about, and yes — even organizing episodes or concepts to better fit in with your outline.

    This is especially helpful if you have a deep catalog (my show, Streamlined Solopreneur, has over 400 episodes). But this makes AI your research assistant, not the author of the book.

    OK — with that out of the way, let’s get to it. How can you use your podcast to write a book?

    What Type of Podcasts are Perfect for Writing Books?

    One of the most important building blocks for a successful podcast is having a clear mission statement — understanding who you’re talking to, what problem they have, and how you help them solve that problem.

    If you have that, you can use your podcast to write a book because you should have a common theme throughout your show and episodes.

    In-fact, this, above all else, is the main driver for your book — the format largely doesn’t matter.

    If you have a solo show, wonderful. Your book can draw on the episodes you’ve crafted, covering your show’s topic (and mission) in-depth. You can likely derive both big ideas, and implementation details from your episodes.

    If you have an interview show, great! You have lots and lots of case studies and perspectives to pull from. Your job will be to weave them together into a cohesive journey for your reader, giving them stops along the way to learn from more experts than just you.

    And if your show is more news or current events based, that’s fine too! You can use all the time you’ve spent researching and opining to create an anthology of important history and facts for your readers.

    But the show isn’t necessarily providing the words. It provides something much more crucial.

    Why You Should Write a Book Based on Your Podcast

    As I mentioned earlier, when writing a book, you must do research at every step of the process, from ideation, to final draft.

    But when you have a podcast, it’s like you’ve given yourself a head start of months, or even years. And while it doesn’t feel like wasted work — after all, you did get great content out of the episode — I’m all about working smart, and reusing valuable content, information, and knowledge is perhaps the smartest one can work.

    As you consider great non-fiction books, you may notice a pattern. The author is drawing from their expert experience to craft a narrative.

    Kindra Hall doesn’t just tell you to write good stories. She demonstrates, through her research and experiences with her clients, why good stories are important.

    James Clear doesn’t just tell you habits are essential. He leverages the years of research he’s done on the topic and shows how It’s helped him, and how it can help you too.

    Tiago Forte, Georgiana Laudi &Claire Suellentrop, Walter Isaacson, and Robbie Kellman Baxter have all done the same thing. Research, experience, narrative.

    Your podcast shortcuts this process. Through your content, you’ve been doing the research, talking to experts, leveraging experience, and maybe even experimenting.

    Now it’s time to take all of that, and turn it into a book worth reading.

    How to Approach Writing a Book Based on Your Podcast (the Short Version)

    “Worth reading” is the operative descriptor in that sentence. You can, as many these days do, throw all of your transcripts into a custom GPT, tell it to write a book, and then “iterate” the prompts until you get something you’ve deemed good enough to slap a cover on.

    But that’s not the right approach.

    Instead, you should start your book without combing through your episodes catalog. Start with a topic that stands alone, that you happen to be an expert in. Of-course, you know what your podcast is about, and therefore will pick something that’s in line with your topic.

    But there’s a difference between starting with the topic vs. combing through your episodes to see what’s there.

    It’s like creating the prefect menu for Thanksgiving dinner, then buying ingredients, vs. looking in your fridge to see what you can throw together.

    Once you have your topic, you can create the outline — again, I would encourage you to do this with little to no influence from your podcast. You want to create an organically good book, not some ham-fisted amalgamation of things you happened to talk about over the last 3 (or in my case, 8) years.

    It’s after you have your outline that you can really start to leverage your show’s episode catalog. Feed everything into AI if you’d like, or do a good old-fashioned site search and look for episodes to support your outline. You’ll want to look for:

    1. Times you or your guest explicitly talk about the points in the outline
    2. Supplemental stories to drive your points home
    3. Actionable advice based on the points in the outline

    You can use whatever tool you’d like for this (I’ve switched over the years, but Ulysses, Notion, and Obsidian are great research tools), but grab excepts, links and summaries from your episode catalog.

    These pieces can serve as your primary research while you write a brand-new book, supplemented by your podcast.

    Your Book is the Dividends on Your Podcast’s Time Investment

    If I haven’t made it explicitly clear at this point, let me state it more plainly:

    You’ve invested a ton of time into your podcast’s content. Your book can leverage that time investment but using your podcast as the primary research for it.

    Because, let’s face it: making money with a podcast can be really hard — and I’m saying this as someone who’s successfully made money with multiple podcasts. Writing a book is also really hard — you need a good, validated idea and enough time to do the research and actually write the dang thing.

    If you write a book based on your podcast, all of those things get easier:

    1. You’ve validated your idea already, assuming your podcast has listeners.
    2. You’ve put in a ton of time over months and years, which you can use as research.
    3. You can sell the book based on your podcast, which generates income;

    I would never say writing a book worth reading is easy (it’s not), but your podcast gives you a considerable advantage in the writing and research process.

    With it, you should be able to write a complete and published work that sees the light of day!

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    Now, writing the book is one thing. But distributing it — that’s a whole-other complicated story. As someone who’s self-published, and been traditionally published, I can tell you that it adds an entirely different level of complexity to the process.

    I know authors who’ve written the entire book, then faltered once they go to this part.

    That’s why I’ve partnered with Lulu.

    With Lulu, you can sell books directly to your audience without any trips to the post office. Their e-commerce integrations combine the ease of print-on-demand with the benefits of direct sales. I wish I had this when I wrote my last self-published book.

    Oh, and the best part — you know WHO is buying your book. I wish I had this with my current, traditionally published book.

    You really do get the best of both worlds with Lulu.

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  • The Ghost of Podcast Past (2024 Edition)

    Earlier this month, I had a great idea.

    My 7-year-old has been really into music lately, but she has an iPad, which isn’t very portable. And if I get my way, she won’t have a phone until she’s at least 27. So I thought I’d get her an iPod.

    But to my shock and disbelief, the iPod in all of its forms was discontinued in 2022. I was shocked for 2 reasons:

    1. I consume a lot of tech content, and surely, I learned this fact but forgot it.
    2. The iPod was so good — and feels like a perfect portable companion for kids. Better than an Apple Watch, anyway.

    So alas, I either need to get her some random portable player, or hope she’s cool with connecting her iPad to a bluetooth speaker for a bit longer.

    Last year, I ended Podcast Advent with a theme borrowed from A Christmas Carol, looking at the ghosts of Podcast Past, Present, and Future. I’d like to revisit those topics, this time speaking more generally than I did last year.

    In 2023’s Ghost of Podcast Past article, I did a retrospective on How I Built It — unknowingly making it a bit of a eulogy, as the show changed to Streamlined Solopreneur a few months later.

    This year, I’d like to take a broader view of podcasting’s past.

    What is a “Podcast?”

    If you don’t know, the term “podcast” is a portmanteau of the words “iPod” and “Broadcast.”1

    The name isn’t quite fully aligned with the actual history, though. Podcasts have been distributed via RSS since the early 2000s, with the concept first surfacing in October 2000 — before the iPod even existed.

    Podcasts didn’t get support in iTunes until 2005.

    But as iPods were the most popular portable audio players, a lot of audio was consumed on iPods.

    So the name stuck, after it was (ostensibly) coined by Ben Hammersley in an article he wrote for The Guardian in 2004.

    And since we didn’t have the blazing fast internet we have now (at least in the USA), sending audio files made more sense.

    Heck, YouTube didn’t even exist until 2005.

    Today, of course, statistically 0% of listeners use an iPod to listen to podcasts. The name is a remnant of what podcasts originally were: broadcasts one could listen to on an iPod.

    But this has lead to an ongoing discussion of exactly what a “podcast” is. If we look to the past, we see 3 components:

    1. RSS feeds
    2. iPod + Broadcast
    3. Audio-only

    iPods are out.

    For the sake of the medium, RSS feeds most remain in. Podcasting is where it is because it’s openly distributed — much like blogs.

    But what about that last one — audio-only? Was audio simply a constraint of the time?

    After all, iPods eventually got video. Yet, to my knowledge, there’s no plan to add a video tag for podcasting to RSS feeds.

    There were, and still are, plenty of benefits to audio-only content. Just like there are plenty of benefits to video content.

    The point of the Ghost of Christmas Past in A Christmas Carol is to remind us of what came before; to understand and learn from it.

    It symbolizes self-awareness. In podcasting that self-awareness can help us realize that RSS is important to podcasting’s survival — but it can also remind us that being ardently against video could hurt us in the long run.

    The Past’s Effect on Format and Content.

    Understanding Podcast’s Past could also help us improve the format and content of our show.

    We Used to Not Have to Edit

    It used to be that you could basically just record your thoughts, release them with little to no editing, and get people to listen. There was a big first-mover advantage here because when there’s not a lot to listen to, you listen to what’s available — but you also recommend the same thing to more people.

    The idea of “recording and releasing” was fine because podcast listeners were clamoring for content.

    Now, listeners expect more — and have more options when the quality of a show is low.

    Interviews aren’t the Only Format

    The more recent past has seen a boom in interviews. As technology — mics, recording software, internet connections — got better, interview shows seemed to become the vast majority of podcasts out there.

    When I asked ChatGPT why interviews are so popular for podcasters, it gave me 10 reasons, and some of them were pretty good. But if I had to choose, I’d say these 2 take the cake:

    • Perceived Growth
    • Easier to Create

    For a long time, podcasters figured if they have guests on, the guests will share the interview. But that didn’t pan out.

    They also felt that with a guest, you don’t have to prepare as much. You could just have (shudder) a casual conversation.

    And you could…for a while. But things change.

    Combine interviews with record and release, and you get a lot of subpar content. Meandering interviews of varying audio levels, interruptions by barking dogs, and no clear purpose to the content.

    When you have millions (by some estimates, 178 million) of podcast episodes published in a year, a lot of it will probably be subpar. But that also means making some basic changes will help you stand out.

    Can Reviewing the Past Make for a Better Future?

    Just because we’ve done something for a long time, doesn’t mean it’s right, or that we should keep doing it.

    I’m not saying interviews are the wrong format. I’ll still have some in 2025. Likewise, I’m not saying audio-only is bad. But video might help2.

    If you look to the past to see why things are the way they are, you may come to the conclusion it’s time for a change.

    And that change could save your podcast in the future.

    1. As far as I can tell, this is not apocryphal.
    2. I am, however, saying record and release is bad. Edit your show.
  • Podcast Predictions for 2024

    Over the last 2 days we looked at the ghosts of podcast past, and podcast present, in an effort to learn how we got to where we are, and what really makes a good podcast, well, good.

    For the final article of Podcast Advent 2023 (!!), I want to turn our attention to the Ghost of Podcast Future, and look at what 2024 has in store for podcasting.

    There were a few stories in recent months that I believe will inform how we approach, measure, and produce podcasts in 2024.

    One quick programming note: I’d really like to speak intelligently on Custom GPTs, and do believe that they’ll have a big impact on podcasting (remember what I said yesterday about AI not understanding our audience?). But I haven’t made one yet, and really want to test it first. That’s likely something I’ll do for members in January.

    OK — let’s jump into the predictions.

    Downloads will matter less

    I’ve heard more people say this year than in previous years that downloads are not the metric that matters. And while that’s absolutely true, downloads have been the only metric we’ve consistently had over a long period of time.

    But with more companies trying to track “listeners,” Apple Podcasts and Spotify making more stats available to us (like consumption and engaged listeners). And YouTube throwing it’s hat and analytical prowess into the podcasting ring, that’s going to change.

    iOS 17 has already made a change in Apple Podcasts that dramatically changes the number of downloads a podcast sees.

    Plus, some podcast hosting companies are reportedly willing to let their IAB compliance lapse, meaning they won’t have the backing of the only organization that tries to standardize podcast download numbers1.

    All of this is creating a perfect storm in 2024 for podcasts to leave downloads counts by the wayside, and instead measure something more meaningful — email signups, engagements, even clicks in show notes or visits to URLs the hosts says on air.

    On Day 14, I posited that your podcast’s clear CTA is crucial for your podcast to grow. That’s going to be even more true in 2024.

    Podcast ads (as we know them) will take a hit

    With the primary metric for podcast ads taking a hit in 2023, you might be wondering how they’re affected, if at all. And while there have been some reports of podcasters having to do more make goods2, there’s actually another story I’m thinking about.

    Podcast listening service Auddia has announced that it will automatically skip ads in podcasts for listeners on their pro plan. Let’s ignore the fact that they are profiting by modifying the listening experience of content they don’t own, potentially taking money out of the pockets of the actual content owners3.

    Instead let’s look at a long-standing trend for listening who enjoy free content on other web-based platforms: they hate ads.

    Specifically, they hate intrusive ads that interrupt the content poorly. This is why ad blockers are so popular. It’s why people go through great lengths to block ads on YouTube (or pay for YouTube Premium, which gives money back to the creators).

    Moving into 2024, we’re seeing downloads take a hit, a growing disdain for podcast ads, and many podcasts still struggling due to lack of interest in advertising.

    That means podcasters will have to be creative about how they integrate brand deals and generate income with their podcasts.

    That’s not to say podcast ads will disappear, but we’ll see more podcasters try to diversify their income to not rely fully on podcast ads.

    We’ll see some podcast listening app consolidation

    Stitcher closed. Castro appears to be on its last legs. YouTube has entered the podcasting arena, and more people are using Spotify and Apple Podcasts. Apple Podcasts has actually made some big updates this year — most of them very positive.

    We also see smaller apps, like Pocket Casts, experimenting with a higher tier revenue model. It’s becoming harder for independent podcast apps to compete, so we’re seeing a great consolidation of podcast apps.

    What does this mean for us podcasters? It can be bad or good. Bad in the sense that less competition can lead to a lack of innovation and the potential for more vendor lock-in.

    But I don’t think we’re there or will get there. Because podcasts are based on RSS feeds, consolidation can happen, but wholesale gatekeeping cannot.

    So you can also take a more optimistic approach. If podcasters understand where the vast majority of their listeners are consuming their podcasts, they can tailor the experience, offering bonus content, having specific calls to action, or, if video is an important aspect, putting more effort into that.

    Which leads me to my final prediction for 2024…

    Podcasters will have to get more creative with content

    Something else I heard a lot more this year than in previous years is that the straight interview podcast is dead.

    I’ve personally made several changes to the format of my show, and I’ve spoken to other podcasters who aim to put a new twist on the format or borrow from other mediums.

    The ghost of podcast past taught us that differentiation through quality is important. It’s no longer good enough to just release a raw interview and hope people will listen.

    That’s even more true with YouTube supporting podcasts and Spotify supporting video. Creating a better experience is a necessity.

    Going into 2024 your goal, if you want your podcast to succeed, is to be creative with your content. Experiment with different formats. Try a solo show. Try bringing on a regular cohost.

    Think about the story each episode tells.

    The way you can spend more time on the content is by leveraging AI and other tools to help improve your podcast workflows.

    That’s what the ghost of podcast present taught us — and that’s the whole reason I run this site.

    Save time where you can to spend more time adding the human element to your show.

    That was my goal this podcast advent, and I really hope you enjoyed reading it as much as I enjoyed writing it.

    Merry Christmas if you celebrate, and here’s to a fantastic New Year — for you and your podcast.

    1. Though it’s worth noting that there are druthers about the IAB as well. Chiefly that the expiration of compliance feels more like extortion than a dedication to standard.
    2. An extra ad you have to run if you don’t hit a specified number of downloads.
    3. I will be taking steps to ensure Auddia doesn’t have my content on it — not with my permission anyway.
  • I was on the Profits Through Podcasting Podcast

    My editor, Joel, has launched a new show called Profits Through Podcasting, where he shows people how to turn listeners into paying customers.

    I had the pleasure of going on the show and we talk all about systems, putting the right amount of effort into your show, and more.

    Listen to the episode

    Here’s a little preview:

  • Workflow Recommendation: American History Tellers

    A recent favorite podcast of mine is American History Tellers from Wondery. After finding History Daily back in April, I followed host Lindsay Graham’s work more closely — I was already a fan of him from American Elections: Wicked Game and 18651.

    One of the great things History Daily does is a “Saturday Matinee” episode, where they publish a full episode of another podcast. And in October of this year, he used that slot to promote the latest American History Tellers series on the Salem Witch Trials.

    But while I strongly recommend podcast swaps, that’s not the workflow recommendation I have.

    See, while listening to American History Tellers, which does 4-6 episodes on a single topic, I had a feeling of deja vu at times.

    The things I was hearing on American History Tellers, I heard on History Daily.

    And that’s the workflow: repurpose content when you can.

    All of Graham’s shows are deeply researched and scripted by a fantastic team of people. That means they have a ton of raw material that they can mold however they’d like.

    American History Tellers goes deep into the stories and covers it from all aspects, hiring voice actors and putting you in the story. Each episode is around 40 minutes long — so there’s lots of content for each topic/series.

    History Daily takes one aspect of an event from that day in history and gives you context around it. Each episode is about 15 minutes long. It’s easy to see how researchers for American History Tellers might take what they learn, extract it, and turn it into a shorter episode for History Daily…or vise versa.

    Perhaps while researching things that happen on specific dates, they come across something interesting and look into if there’s more of a story there.

    But your big takeaway: look for places where you can reuse what you create.

    Oh…and listen to American History Tellers too.

    Slight Clarification here: I’ve since learned that as American History Tellers is owned/managed by Wondery, and History Daily is owned/managed by Airship/Noiser, these two shows don’t actually share any content resources. I’d still encourage you to think about how you can use the work you do in one area for your podcast, though!

    1. Can you tell I’m a fan of American history?

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